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3. Five years and two months out of Invisalign.

4. 18 months out of braces. ■

8/2/2016

davidpalmer
Member Since: 04/14/00
Post: 33 of 36

Your cases look really nice. Have you ever had any of the 3X3s not work and one or more
anterior teeth shift or rotate? If so, what do you do then? ■
8/3/2016

Billy Wonka
Member Since: 08/31/08
Post: 34 of 36

Every once in a while, I do see my cases with some anterior relapse. I usually follow the
same protocol that Charlie spoke about in an earlier post in this thread, but instead of using a
diamond disk, I use a diamond strip in a straight, seesawing motion to create a flat, broad area of
contact. I then use elastic thread and lasso the offending tooth to the fi xed lingual retainer, and
see the patient in two weeks to take impression for an Essix overlay retainer.
Maybe I was just lucky to have four consecutive retention cases show up in my office
with virtually no relapse. I'll post more if there's interest. I'm here to learn from my GP
colleagues too, so if you have cases to teach me, I'm all eyes and ears. And if I can share
something, I shall! ■
8/3/2016

zxzxzx
Member Since: 02/28/03
Post: 35 of 36

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You have to understand there are differences between general dentists doing ortho and real
orthodontists doing ortho.
The biggest difference is we are better looking than you guys. The second difference is in
how we are judged. For instance, you do an ortho case and you have to keep the patient happy.
Maybe a removable retainer is enough. If they don't wear it, it is their fault. If your patient is a
teen, mom is also effectively a client. You can say all you want about "Mrs. Smith, it was little
David's responsibility to wear the retainer. I'm sorry that he didn't."
Mom may respond with something like, "I just spent $6,000 for nothing?" How many
referrals from the soccer booster's association do you think that mom will send you?
In my case, I also have to keep the referring dentist happy and probably a couple of his

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