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to poor inlet and discharge conditions at the fan and/or poor duct design as noted by Mr. Page. This problem is clearly one that is best solved by changing the source, rather than controlling the noise along the path. Many readers will remember the “Source—Path—Receiver” concept as a basic tool for identifying a noise control solution. Of course, it goes well beyond this, but this is a good first step toward a solution. I looked through my duct design file and found several articles from back issues of ASHRAE Journal that could be of assistance to the designer in the further study of system effect and duct design in addition to the references Mr. Page cites. One of the most helpful was in February 1994 by Vanderburgh and Paulauskis on aerodynamics of system effect. In July 1996 there was an article on basic tips for duct design by Evans and Tsal. They cited many other related articles as well. There are also many other references in ASHRAE Handbook. For example, the 2011 ASHRAE Handbook—HVAC Applications, Chapter 48, Sound and Vibration (pp. 48.12 – 48.15) discusses this issue under the aerodynamic noise heading. The first reference Mr. Page cites is in the 2009 ASHRAE Handbook—Fundamentals, Fan/System Interface (p. 21.11). This discusses these issues and provides further references. A great deal of information is available for those anxious to learn. In my past experience with system effect, I have taken some sound and vibration measurements, looked at fan and duct conditions, and felt the ductwork. Many times the solution is fairly straightforward. At other times, the source and solution are more elusive. On some of those occasions, the TAB contractor has been requested to run a Pitot tube traverse at various locations to either confirm where the air is in the duct or help identify the problem. This data can be plotted on a duct cross-section, for example, to visualize areas of higher velocity and find out what is happening in the duct. Of course, there are times when the turbulence is so bad that valid readings cannot be made. While this might be an oversimplification, the approach remains the same: finding the turbulence and the cause. In the future, perhaps ASHRAE TC 2.6, Sound and Vibration Control, can add some commentary in the section on aerodynamically generated noise related to system effect or have a section on this subject. Howard Pelton, P.E., Member ASHRAE, Garland, Texas
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I am obliged for Mr. Pelton’s compliments and comments, but would add that in our experience, the issue of sound and
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Retrocommissioning Older Buildings
Liquid Refrigerant Pumping in Industrial Refrigeration Systems
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