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theoretical argument among economists about
how long this will last. But if we look at not
only Southern Europe but also Eastern
Europe—these are all countries that are about
to enter this important aging period, and
they’ve got strong negative external investment
positions. This is a great concern. How are they
going to manage the aging process? They
haven’t got the external savings to draw down,
and they have external debts to pay.
people were not moving from one country to
another. Or even within countries. Take
the example of Spain; even when the economy
was growing at 4% a year and 750,000
migrants were entering the country every year,
there was double-digit unemployment in the
southern parts of Spain. There was no
movement from these areas towards richer
regions like Madrid, Valencia, or Barcelona,
where the economies were booming, and there
was plenty of opportunity for work.
they owe money to the external sector.
Hugh: Every month, just to cover the current
outflows on the equities and on the debt
obligations these countries have, they have to
do an extra dose of exporting to be able
to earn the money to pay it down. That
exporting doesn’t help compensate for deficient
internal demand. So, it’s going to become an
increasing headache.
Labor Mobility
Torralba: I’d like to discuss the relationship
between migration and fiscal policy.
Spain is quite a nice microcosm of the
problems that the euro area has as a whole. If
this mobility wasn’t evident, or wasn’t
evident in Italy from the south to the north in
the first decade of this century, how much less
wasn’t it there in the euro area as a whole. I
mean, there was a migration from Eastern
Europe into the euro area, but not from one
eurozone country to another, except at the most
highly qualified level.
What we are seeing now is something new,
and something that in principle is very
welcome—people are moving from countries
which are stuck in deep recession to areas
where there is economic growth, where there
is demand for labor.
In an economic area like the eurozone, where
in theory you have a free labor market—
people are free to work and live wherever
they choose—you have the possibility that
people will move from the least-productive,
lowest-wage parts of the eurozone to the
most-productive, highest-wage areas. That
leaves behind retirees, or people with very
low earnings, who make small fiscal
contributions to the state. What does the free
labor market in the eurozone imply for fiscal
solidarity in the eurozone?
Hugh: This is a very important point. The euro
was set up with major institutional deficiencies.
Some of these had to do with the fiscal
coordination and product market integration,
services integration, or whatever. One of the
deficiencies was the absence of widespread
labor mobility. For some reason or another,
Torralba: From a political point of view, it’s
going to be extremely complicated. It creates
tensions between regions, and it creates
resentment. In Spain, people in Catalonia
Torralba: Exactly. Not only do they have
current account deficits, but on top of that,
the sharing of the benefits of this migration?
Because if it isn’t, then what you are left with
is what the old East Germany would be like, if
it wasn’t part of the Federal Republic, a country
with a very large number of old people, quite a
high unemployment rate, and insufficient
growth to support the basic welfare system.
But, as you’re suggesting, this basically good
news also presents us with a problem, as it
highlights yet another institutional deficiency in
the design of the euro area. Basically, those
who are moving have been brought up,
educated, and prepared for life by one society
but they then go and work in another one.
Instead of paying contributions through the
pay-go system of their own country, they
contribute to the pay-go system of another one,
and there’s no evident mechanism whereby any
of this money gets recycled back to meet the
old-age needs of the parents who raised them.
The issue then is, is the euro area going to set
up some kind of equivalent arrangement to
the one that’s been set up in the Federal Republic of Germany, or the autonomous communities
of Spain, and make some kind of allowance for
think they’re paying too much to Madrid. How
is that going to work in Europe when Germany
is told that they’re going to have to send
checks every month to pay for the Spanish
retirees? I don’t see that going down very well.
Hugh: No, and I don’t think that’s going to
happen, either. Japan has these problems, not
at the regional level, but the problem simply of
sustaining the health and pension system,
given the lackluster nature of the economy and
now the declining workforce and problems of
productivity that they’re having, associated
with its aging. How Japan is handling this is
just by boosting debt. Japan’s gross sovereign
debt last year was around 235% of GDP,
and they were running a fiscal deficit of around
10%. The prime minister, Shinzo Abe, is talking
about doing even more of the same this year,
so we can imagine they could go up through
the 250% of GDP and onwards to upwards to
more than 300% over the next few years.
These are unheard of proportions in any modern
society. We don’t know where this leads. But I
would suggest that the most likely tendency
that we can see in Europe at the moment is a
tendency for some kind of mechanism to be
devised, yet to be specified, which allows
these countries to continue spending without
all the weight of this falling on Germany.
Torralba: We’ve been talking about the
implications of demographics for fiscal
solidarity. Another implication that we read
about is that having a single financial
system eventually leads to some sort of
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