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Cord-neverers are generally millennials who
have moved out of their parents' house,
but who have never paid for cable. There is no
value to them to pay for TV.
Cord-shavers have had pay TV, but they have
decided to go down to a much more basic
package. They may just pay for a channel like HBO,
but they no longer want ESPN.
Do viewership changes depend on demographics?
Macker: What we found is a lot of the
cord-cutting or cord-nevering is happening
on the younger end and as the customers get older
you see a lot more cord-shaving. "I'm not
getting the value out of it any more. My cable and
phone and Internet bill is coming out to $200
a month. It's just too much. I don't need all these
channels. Let's cut back." What is also happening
is that when people bought cable TV they were
buying network access, right? And that access
is part of the cost. However, nowadays if you are
also buying Internet from the same company,
you are also paying for network access. You are
paying for network access twice. So, if we move to
over-the-top TV or linear TV, you are paying
for network access once. We think that is a more
efficient way of paying for that.
So, is price the most important determinant for
a cord-shaver or a cord-cutter? Or does competition
matter, too?
Macker: I think it is a little of both. Price
is definitely part of it. The rise of Netflix, Hulu, and
Amazon Prime has made it such that consumers
don't have to necessarily watch a show right when
it happens.
So, this idea about a typical family eating dinner
and then sitting down to watch a hit TV show during
prime time doesn't exist any longer?
Macker: That has died off as a general concept.
You see that in the ratings for news. Fox News
does well. CNN has done well on occasion, as has
CNBC. But the ratings for national newscasts
have consistently come down. And those viewers
who are watching tend to be older.
The way the media sector has been explained to me
in the past is that you either control the content or you
control the distribution of that content. But that
argument doesn't seem as clear-cut to me with the rise
of such firms as Netflix and Amazon. Is that right?
Macker: Yes. These guys are all partners
together, too, right? They are all trying to keep that
cable ecosystem together. One of the other
things to think about is TV works because we all
subsidize each other. ESPN costs $6 or so
a month per subscriber. But if it was just the
subscribers who actually wanted ESPN, it would
be a lot more expensive. You hear all these
arguments-the average household watches 17
channels so why do they have 200? Well, the next
household might not be watching all those
channels, but it works because we balance each
other out.
As that concept changes, where does that
profitability move to? One of the ways we think
about media companies such as 21st Century
Fox FOX, Discovery DISCA, and Time Warner TWX
is that they should be opened up to whatever pay
distributors are out there-Sling TV, PlayStation
Vue, Comcast CMCSA, or Apple AAPL. Figure
out the pricing and then be open to everybody. You
want as wide as distribution as possible.
Is there resistance to that?
Macker: There has been in the past. There
has been a little resistance to putting
channels on Sony PlayStation Vue when it first
launched. But, now most companies have
come around to that idea. NBC Universal
is a little more resistant because it is owned
by Comcast.
How do companies such as Netflix fit into the
media picture?
Macker: The thing you need to remember about
Netflix is that most of its content comes
largely from traditional content providers. Its library
of TV shows comes from CBS CBS, from Disney DIS,
from Fox. If you look at its famous original
programming, it has financed it, but it still uses
traditional movie studios to build that out. "Orange
Is the New Black" comes from Lions Gate LGF.
All its Marvel shows obviously come from Disney.
Dreamworks Animation DWA does a lot of the
children's animation. So, all this original content is
coming from the traditional media companies.
It has to have that. There is a relationship there
that is built in.
Does Netflix go a different way? If you look
at Amazon, obviously their back catalog still comes
from traditional media companies. But when
it does original content, Amazon is the studio.
It is doing a lot of the work itself. That is what will
be interesting to see about Netflix. Will it
move that way-competing with those companies
instead of working with them? As we move
forward, the world is going to be mix of live and
what we call SVOD, or subscription video
on demand. That is the world that is out there.
Another interesting company is CBS. It has a
channel called CBS All Access. It is linear streams
of whatever is on CBS outside of NFL games.
It has a video-on-demand library behind the
channel. It is streaming the new Star Trek show.
It will only be available on the All Access site.
That is a really interesting model that you might
see some companies migrate to over time.
Are companies such as Sony and Apple trying
to control more than your viewing habits? Do they want
to control all of the electronics in a given household?
Macker: If you look at the Sony PlayStation
Vue service, we think it is largely selling it at cost.
There is maybe a slight markup, but not a very
big one. What Sony is really interested in is locking
in consumers. The way to do that over time-
maybe there isn't exclusive deals with channels,
but there is a better interface, the thing that
people have complained about with set-top boxes
for years. To have that user experience, that
portability of content-that is what people want.
So, that console is the heartbeat of the home.
Macker: If we are looking down the road, Apple
definitely wants to do that. If you look at Amazon,
its products now do smart home stuff. It used
to be called the battle for the living room. I think
we are seeing that come back.
So, when you look at the future, are you convinced
which companies have the smart business models and
which ones will struggle?
Macker: We think companies that have a broad
amount of content with a strong production
studio are the ones that are best suited. There are
three media wide-moat names and then there
is one wide-moat name on the cable side.
Companies like Disney, Time Warner, Fox, and
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