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as, " they don't care. " Cultural competency is really important.
Deep ethnographies of neighborhoods, understanding neighborhoods, not just the [demographic]
stats; I want to know about the
lives of people, the daily practices.
That's what deep ethnography
would bring us. Imagine a parks
department that said, " We are going
to work with the community...with
school groups, with elder groups
on community histories. We are
going to build up a deep knowledge
of this community. " That would
go a long way to building trust. It
would also fulfill some of the conditions of restorative justice. Cultural competency, the idea of coproducing, deep ethnographies
- these are the ways that we
learn about how practices might
go forward.

Stratton: I love the fact that
you explore an idea and then
you explore the next idea.
What do you think has yet to
be explored or what do you see
digging into next?
Agyeman: Is just sustainabilities a
destination or a journey? I actually
think it's a journey. There may be
a destination somewhere along the
line, but it's a journey. And we're on
that journey - whether we like it or
not. We can choose to go backwards
and retrace our steps, and we might
have to do that for a short while
and then go forward again. For me,
just sustainabilities for 20 years has
been this platform through which
I've explored issues of food, sharing
cities, urban design, and how urban
design can complete streets, how it
can lead to gentrification and deepen inequality.

The news is quite good in many
ways that a lot of cities are engaging with some of the principles
of just sustainabilities, but the
downside is: nobody, virtually, is
looking at them all simultaneously. So, some are doing the more
environmental bits, some are doing the justice bits. People are engaged with various aspects, but the
challenge is: how do we get cities
to deal simultaneously with all of
these aspects? In many ways, just
sustainabilities is more than the
sum of its parts. It's an intersectional set of ideas that, if practiced together, would make really
deep change.
For more information on " just
sustainabilities " and Professor
Agyeman's other research and
writings, visit julianagyeman.com.

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