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director and his designers must sit down for a couple of
hours with some architects and some engineers, and decide
what is wanted and needed to achieve this flexible theatre.
RUDOLPH: I can't agree that the architect thinks only about
how something is put together and how it's coordinated and
all that. The architect ultimately thinks also about the psychology of space, if you will, and of how it feels to be in
one space as opposed to another. How you get into the
building, the lobby, how you progress, and so forth is first;
how something is made is really quite secondary to those
considerations. If an architect is any good at all, his prime
consideration is how it is to be in a place.
JOHNSON: I admit that we have to listen to what the directors want, but perhaps it is our duty to go still further. If
Ricky Franzen wants to leave a good deal of his architecture
to Nina Vance, I think he's well-advised to do so; but there
are a great many directors who are not so capable of making
a pitch for a certain very intriguing but very strange way of
looking at a show. The architect's job is to point out other
possibilities, like the Japanese method which I find much
preferable to the arena method. I'd like to take up with the
director the possibilities inherent in some of the beautiful
Greek theatres, Miletus or Epidauros. There is, of course,
the old proscenium that Sir Laurence Olivier and I might enjoy, but in New York and other centers there are happenings
being done without any stage at all. The audience merely
sits around the performers; it's perfectly modest. But it's
not the only way. The architects should go a step further
and take a cue from our artistic directors.
,

BUTLER: It has puzzled and bothered me about many brand
new theatres I have gone into; what we talked about then
was-the lobby and salon. However, when we left the lobby
and entered the house, to me, speaking as a director, it was
just a catastrophe. We find in so many theatres that once
we come through those doors it is difficult to pursuade the
architect to stop putting on his show; this is where my
show, the director's show, begins. The moment a patron
enters the auditorium, he begins something of the process
described in the beautiful statement by Robert Edmond
Jones. He spoke of the theatre scenery as a kind of exciting
vacuum that wasn't filled until the actors stepped into the
middle of it; then suddenly it fell into place: it wasn't a
complete picture before. The whole theatre should suggest
that sense of vacuum: it should be awaiting the audience
and the actor for its fulfillment. My contention as a director
is that an architect should give me a theatre that has a
sense of pleasantness, but yet not one that would make the
patron "comfortable." When he gets into the auditorium, he
should be excited enough to want the curtain to go up and
the show to get started. He should not be at ease in that
room the way he is in the lounge. He should not be diverted from the performance by a proscenium, for example,
that is so bright it is itself an ornament.

JOHANSEN: Well, I'll go along with that. There's a time for
Guggenheim Museum. Ceiling photo, John Primm; repeat
me not to do architecture; there's a time for the show to
of side galleries, their mirror image, and pool in m'3in
take over. Even if the show is not ready, there is a new exfloor, Herbert O'Del!.
citement as soon as you've passed that barrier between the
outside and the inside.
CONANT: The lobby too can be flexible.
QUESTION: But can't the performance be altered also?
Wouldn't it be possible to do another production of the
same play in another way that would suit the style of the
theatre?
HOUGHTON: No, I don't think so. Because Brecht and the
Three Penny Opera had a certain view of life, a "crummy

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