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that's a really good reason right there.

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I can barely watch a TV show now without recognizing a piece of music-there is that much TAXI
member music out there. I'm constantly saying
to my wife, "I know that music. Oh my gosh,
there goes another member." Especially in reality shows, but I'm starting to hear TAXI
members' music on big network shows like The
Blacklist. I heard something fly by two episodes
ago that was a TAXI member. Whoever it was
didn't even tell me it was on the show, but I recognized the piece of music, and that just blows
my mind.
Russell: He might have not even known. It
happens. We don't intentionally keep it from
you, Michael. We love you. Sometimes we
don't know.
CK, out of all the folks up there, you've been a
TAXI member probably the longest. I've seen you
at Rallies forever, and that you're well
networked from coming to all these Rallies. You
know, you were part of the original group of
people that hung out and said, "We're a community," and you've been part of that growth. Why
do you collaborate?
CK: Well, to answer the question that you
originally posed-where I'm living now? I
just recently moved to Pikesville, Maryland,
which is basically northwest Baltimore. And
the reason that's a factor is that I was in Albuquerque for many, many years before that,
and there is rich music scene between Albuquerque and Santa Fe, and I left all that
behind to be closer to family. But what has

"I love TAXI because there's a community, and the community has made
me better, it has grown me."
-Steven Guiles
remained consistent is my TAXI family, and
that's where my collaborations come from,
and it's been great. But basically everything
that these guys have said holds true, and one
thing I wanted to mention-I'm sure you've
run across this, because you're a voracious
reader of business books-the notion that
the five people with whom you spend the
most time, you're the average of the five people with whom you spend the most time. Pick
excellent people.
I work at home alone. You know, everything I
do-composing and teaching music technology courses-is online. So collaborating gives
me a way to connect with excellent people,
and keep that interaction in my life, and keep
growing and keep expanding my universe. So

And you're five people. I think that was the
point I so inarticulately made was that you've
been around so long and part of this core group
of people. You chose well at the beginning...
Yeah. I mean, I made a list of the folks I've
collaborated with. It's like 20 people.
Awesome, awesome people.
Scott, I hope I didn't get this wrong, but you had
a song that got cut through TAXI with Janiva
Magnus, right, who is the reigning queen of the
Blues. I spent three hours listening to her music
two or three months ago. I had no idea how
amazing she is. She has actually come in and
screened some Blues listings for us at TAXI, and
then she said, "Can't I run one from my own
record?" and that's how you ended up on her
record, right? So you collaborated with Jennifer
Levy on that, I believe?
Scott: Yeah. At that time, I was always in a
band, and in Long Island, New York, there a
lot of very talented people there. But when it
came to writing and recording, there was a
disconnect somehow. So I joined TAXI originally in 2007, but for a number of personal
reasons I couldn't get it going. Something was
always distracting me, the band especially,
because I was the musical director of the
band. Jennifer was one of the people that I
found through Craigslist. Initially, my goal
was... I did everything myself, except sing.
Then I realized when the singer has a vested
interest in the co-write, it's much more believable. So I try to encourage that, and then I
became a psychiatrist, and I think I'm better
at that than anything.
I didn't know you were. How am I doin' today?
Scott: Dr. Scotty Love. It just was a natural
progression, but with TAXI it really didn't
take off until I met my main partner, FM
Cossey, who is from New Zealand. We fill in
each other's blanks. I have the attention span
of a gnat. I get everything done, but a lot of it
is last minute and it is creative chaos. FM is
very organized, and she's 16 hours ahead of
me in New Zealand. So in essence, the song
never sleeps, because when I go to bed she's
getting up, and she's working on the same
song, and we have a steady output of things
because of that. And at this point, we have
our go-to singers that we use that always
come through for us. And then we still try
other things, because I'm a Pop guy basically,
but there are so many variations of Pop. Is it
TV/film Pop? Is it hit single Pop? Is it instrumental-type of stuff. So we're still figuring it
out, trying to adhere to the listings.
But TAXI gave me a sense of direction that I
never had before, and I love working with
TAXI. I've worked with [fellow panelist]
Steven. God, he's probably spent more time

singing the song than we did talking about it.
Intuitively they know. Everybody knows, and
it's a wonderful environment.
I guess I'll go back down the line again. I'm not
going to ask the same question of everybody,
I'm gonna start bouncing around, because I've
got a lot of ground to cover. How do you guys
get a sense of who's going to be safe to work
with? I think a lot of people are afraid to collaborate for fear that they're going to expose their
idea, or maybe much of the song to somebody
and it's gonna get hijacked, and they're gonna
go, "What the hell did I just do? I just gave a
song away." How do you know who you can trust,
Russell: You've got to build a relationship
first-very often you have to. Occasionally,
you might jump into something pretty
quickly, but usually if you jump in quickly,
you've already known that person because

"What has remained consistent is my
TAXI family, and that's where my
collaborations come from."
-C.K. Barlow
you've seen them around. Where do you see
them around? That is one of
the best places to get to know people. Because
when you're in there and you're constantly
contributing to that Forum, to that community, people get to see who you are, [they see]
your integrity. They get to hear your music if
you're posting the music in the Peer-to-Peer
section of the Forum, so they know what kind
of musician you are and what kind of music
you do, and you can get a sense of how they
might compliment you in that manner. But the
biggest thing is getting to know them as a person, because very often you're private
messaging them through the TAXI Forum, or
you end up being friends on Facebook and
chatting about stuff, and you really do get a
sense after hangin' out with somebody for a
while-are they the kind of person that's
going to screw you over or not? And generally,
that's why I like collaborating with Canadians,
because they are the nicest ones of all. [audience laughs]
It has all of a sudden become Canada Day here.
Russell: Canadians and ex-Canadians, because
they bring their niceness to the U.S. But really,
being in the Forum is just one of the best
places to get a feel of who that person is and
how they handle themselves and what kind of
integrity they have.
I saw you posted something somewhere that you
felt that people spent far too much time on Facebook and too little time on the Forum. Yes,
Forums are old technology, but ours has always
been such a strong community, and so much good
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